Post by Will Wikle on Aug 29, 2010 16:55:00 GMT -5
[16:19] gtpimpsta328: hey whats up
[16:20] willwiklebb5: hey who's this
[16:20] gtpimpsta328: Marvin
[16:20] willwiklebb5: Hi
[16:20] gtpimpsta328: hows it going
[16:20] willwiklebb5: Eh.....not great lol
[16:20] gtpimpsta328: sorry man
[16:20] gtpimpsta328: im sure you are campaigning hard
[16:20] willwiklebb5: Of course
[16:20] gtpimpsta328: plus u got a few ppl aligned with you...u might be ok
[16:21] willwiklebb5: I don't have anyone aligned with me but it's clear that your bedroom is in power
[16:21] willwiklebb5: so they definitely don't want to break the power up
[16:21] willwiklebb5: scratch that
[16:21] willwiklebb5: they def DO want to break that power up
[16:21] gtpimpsta328: well i mean we are actually trying to win competitions
[16:21] gtpimpsta328: its easy when ppl are just throwing it
[16:21] willwiklebb5: I am too
[16:21] willwiklebb5: almost won that veto myself
[16:21] willwiklebb5: and I wasn't trying to throw the HOH
[16:22] gtpimpsta328: not saying u, just ppl in general
[16:22] willwiklebb5: I just think that you should have been honest
[16:22] willwiklebb5: you needed to put up two people in our room
[16:22] willwiklebb5: I get that
[16:22] gtpimpsta328: not really
[16:22] gtpimpsta328: i put up you..and then the only other person who ive never spoken to was jase
[16:22] gtpimpsta328: ive spoken to everyone else in the game at least once
[16:23] willwiklebb5: Ok. But it's completely strategically advantageous to you and your alliance to put up someone from the other room
[16:23] gtpimpsta328: again there is no alliance in our room
[16:23] gtpimpsta328: there are ppl in our room who is voting to keep u
[16:23] willwiklebb5: Marvin if you think I believe that you're hoping a lot
[16:24] gtpimpsta328: u dont have to believe me
[16:24] gtpimpsta328: its fact
[16:24] willwiklebb5: Well I'm going to continue to think that you're in an alliance. You and Adria BOTH put me up
[16:24] willwiklebb5: that's not a coincidence
[16:25] gtpimpsta328: so u scott drew arent together right
[16:25] willwiklebb5: right
[16:25] willwiklebb5: Scott won't even talk to me
[16:25] willwiklebb5: his only words to me so far have been "I don't want either you or jase to go home but I'm voting to keep you"
[16:26] willwiklebb5: and drew says that you're in power in your room
[16:26] willwiklebb5: he's told everyone that
[16:26] willwiklebb5: So how do I trust someone who betrays his own room?
[16:26] gtpimpsta328: yeah this week..becaus i won hoh
[16:26] willwiklebb5: I don't.
[16:26] gtpimpsta328: i asked ppl if they'd be willing to vote with me
[16:26] gtpimpsta328: since i was hoh
[16:27] gtpimpsta328: drew came out right and said he is voting to keep u
[16:27] willwiklebb5: so you wanted me out
[16:27] gtpimpsta328: it was either u or jse
[16:27] willwiklebb5: but you wanted ME out
[16:27] gtpimpsta328: jase actually came and talked to me in a full converstaion
[16:27] gtpimpsta328: so after pov i knew u were the one i wanted out to be honest
[16:27] willwiklebb5: I have you on my buddy list but you're never online
[16:27] gtpimpsta328: even after i won hoh, nom'd u and everythin u never contacted me
[16:27] gtpimpsta328: im always on
[16:27] gtpimpsta328: i spoke to everyone on aim
[16:28] willwiklebb5: I don't see you man you're not showing up
[16:28] gtpimpsta328: so i figured u werent contacting me cuz u dont like me, and of couse that worries me
[16:28] gtpimpsta328: im online right now do u see me
[16:28] willwiklebb5: now I do
[16:28] willwiklebb5: Well it's not a matter of dislike
[16:28] willwiklebb5: I don't know you so I can't dislike you
[16:30] willwiklebb5: It's a matter of the game. Your room runs things because you've got 5 people in it
[16:30] willwiklebb5: Adria and you have both won HOH
[16:30] willwiklebb5: you've won Veto
[16:30] gtpimpsta328: how many ppl did u start out with in ur room
[16:30] willwiklebb5: 4
[16:30] willwiklebb5: or 5
[16:30] willwiklebb5: hm was karen in our room?
[16:30] willwiklebb5: no one in our room talks
[16:30] gtpimpsta328: yeah
[16:31] gtpimpsta328: no one in ur room talks...u guys have 35 posts in there
[16:31] gtpimpsta328: we have 30
[16:31] willwiklebb5: that's not a lot
[16:31] gtpimpsta328: but its more then us
[16:31] willwiklebb5: I was expecting a lot more communication
[16:31] willwiklebb5: the difference is negligible
[16:31] gtpimpsta328: so if we are aligned what does that make u guys, super aligned lol
[16:31] willwiklebb5: no
[16:31] willwiklebb5: clearly you've talked to everyone on aim
[16:31] willwiklebb5: I can't get anyone on aim
[16:31] willwiklebb5: scott never talks to me and nakomis
[16:32] willwiklebb5: jase
[16:32] gtpimpsta328: ppl PMed me too
[16:32] willwiklebb5: all I've ever seen online is holly natalie and michael
[16:32] willwiklebb5: and people don't respond to my pms
[16:32] willwiklebb5: so it's like I'm invisible in this house and it's frustrating
[16:32] willwiklebb5: So I started a game
[16:32] gtpimpsta328: so let me ask u something
[16:32] gtpimpsta328: and be honest
[16:32] willwiklebb5: sure
[16:32] gtpimpsta328: ur not with scott/jase etc
[16:33] gtpimpsta328: ppl in ur room
[16:33] willwiklebb5: not until you put me and jase up had we even discussed it
[16:33] gtpimpsta328: even tho before Karen left she said she had a big alliance
[16:33] gtpimpsta328: she PMed me and said watch out ofr htat room u guys have a big alliance but she never named any1
[16:33] willwiklebb5: yeah that's why she left :/ because she felt so safe in a huge alliance
[16:33] gtpimpsta328: so i put 2 and 2 together
[16:33] willwiklebb5: yeah well she was lying
[16:34] gtpimpsta328: why would she lie i dont get it
[16:34] gtpimpsta328: im so confused
[16:34] gtpimpsta328: if she left the game no reason to lie
[16:34] willwiklebb5: To create confusion
[16:34] willwiklebb5: I don't know?
[16:34] willwiklebb5: She never said a word to me
[16:35] willwiklebb5: Until you won HOH our room barely said anything to each other
[16:35] willwiklebb5: then you guys won and we were like whoa another win for the biggest bedroom
[16:35] willwiklebb5: we're in trouble if we don't break up that power
[16:35] gtpimpsta328: ok i get it u are all coming after me, thats fine
[16:35] willwiklebb5: no
[16:35] willwiklebb5: your entire room
[16:35] willwiklebb5: the power needs to be broken up because the bedrooms are completely uneven
[16:36] gtpimpsta328: there are ppl in our room who is voting agains tme
[16:36] gtpimpsta328: 2 ppl
[16:36] gtpimpsta328: 1 person i have NO clue what shes doing
[16:36] gtpimpsta328: thats 3 ppl
[16:36] gtpimpsta328: out of 5
[16:36] gtpimpsta328: some alliance
[16:36] willwiklebb5: sorry
[16:36] gtpimpsta328: u guys have nakomis in ur room
[16:36] gtpimpsta328: shes a great competito
[16:37] willwiklebb5: Yeah we've got Nakomis in our room.
[16:37] willwiklebb5: And since we don't talk?
[16:37] willwiklebb5: what good does it do me?
[16:37] gtpimpsta328: she hasnt said ONE word to u guys
[16:37] gtpimpsta328: so whose done all that talking for 35 posts?
[16:37] willwiklebb5: ME
[16:37] willwiklebb5: As you can see I'm the most talkative person in the entire game as far as board posts go
[16:38] willwiklebb5: and I try to talk to people on AIM as often as possible
[16:38] willwiklebb5: but honestly I've never seen you online
[16:38] willwiklebb5: let's say I stay in the house
[16:38] willwiklebb5: what do you think will happen next week?
[16:39] Marvin: ur going to nom me and someone from my room
[16:39] Marvin: if jase stays what do u think will happen next week?
[16:39] willwiklebb5: you and adria will go up
[16:39] Marvin: bingo
[16:39] Marvin: butt one thing....jase doesnt have the backing u do
[16:39] Marvin: but*
[16:40] willwiklebb5: It's true
[16:40] willwiklebb5: I don't think he's talked to even as many people as I have
[16:40] willwiklebb5: which is crazy
[16:40] willwiklebb5: I figured he'd be talking to everyone already
[16:41] Marvin: the thing is i cant vote for u to stay because u will come at me and u have the following to do so
[16:41] Marvin: jase has no following
[16:41] Marvin: u said so urself
[16:42] willwiklebb5: You're not thinking clearly then
[16:42] Marvin: so you'd agree in what im doing, getting u out over jase
[16:42] willwiklebb5: no
[16:42] willwiklebb5: see here's the problem
[16:42] Marvin: u just said urself jase has talked to no one
[16:42] willwiklebb5: you're a target next week no matter what
[16:42] willwiklebb5: just listen
[16:42] Marvin: both of u are coming after me
[16:42] Marvin: i know im a target
[16:42] willwiklebb5: just listen
[16:42] willwiklebb5: stop for a second
[16:42] Marvin: but what happens if adria wins, or natalie or holly
[16:42] Marvin: ok listening
[16:43] willwiklebb5: Ok so if you send me home this week you have all of the people that voted to keep me going against you
[16:43] Marvin: right
[16:43] willwiklebb5: if you send home jase you don't ruffle as many feathers
[16:43] Marvin: against the ppv who voting u out
[16:43] Marvin: ppl
[16:43] willwiklebb5: but the people who would vote me out are listening to YOU
[16:43] willwiklebb5: which means if you find a way to change your mind
[16:43] willwiklebb5: then they'll listen and vote out jase and you'll have less people angry at you
[16:43] willwiklebb5: right?
[16:44] willwiklebb5: make up something, back pedal
[16:44] willwiklebb5: vote out Jase make it a clean sweep that the whole house can agree on
[16:44] willwiklebb5: you'll still have a target on your back but it'll be a LOT smaller than if I go home
[16:44] willwiklebb5: or if there's a clear division of votes
[16:44] willwiklebb5: then people will know where they stand
[16:44] willwiklebb5: if you vote out Jase and get your alliance to as well
[16:44] willwiklebb5: ...
[16:45] Marvin: uve already told me u are putting me up, and u have scott and drew to help u
[16:45] Marvin: jase will put me up but have 0 with him
[16:45] willwiklebb5: I don't have scott and drew to help me
[16:45] willwiklebb5: you keep saying that
[16:45] willwiklebb5: just because you say it doesn't make it true
[16:45] willwiklebb5: What I'm telling you is that I'm not going home.
[16:45] Meebo Message: Could not IM buddy
[16:46] Marvin: ok so if ur not going home well then i dont need to tell anyone to change there minds right?
[16:46] willwiklebb5: Your choice is do I not go home with a clean sweep against jase
[16:46] willwiklebb5: making it everyone voting with what the house wnats
[16:46] willwiklebb5: wants
[16:46] willwiklebb5: OR do you vote me out anyway
[16:46] willwiklebb5: and lose
[16:46] willwiklebb5: and see some landslide against your alliance
[16:46] willwiklebb5: the only way your alliance saves face this week is by voting to keep me
[16:46] Marvin: well it doesnt matter what i want....u said ur not going home
[16:47] willwiklebb5: right
[16:47] willwiklebb5: so vote to keep me
[16:47] Marvin: ok so thats that
[16:47] willwiklebb5: the vote will be X - 0
[16:47] Marvin: no im not going to vote to keep u
[16:47] willwiklebb5: and your alliance won't be exposed
[16:47] Marvin: my vote means0
[16:47] Marvin: my alliance is already exposed according to you
[16:47] Marvin: u asid ur whole room is targetting us
[16:47] willwiklebb5: here's what we have
[16:47] Marvin: that leaves holly and cowboy
[16:47] willwiklebb5: drew says you're in an alliance
[16:47] Marvin: everyone else is in ur room
[16:47] willwiklebb5: I can't trust him
[16:48] willwiklebb5: You and adria both targeted me
[16:48] willwiklebb5: and your room is in control
[16:48] willwiklebb5: We have no confirmation that you're in an alliance
[16:48] willwiklebb5: If you voted to make it a clean sweep then you can say Jase was always your target and no one's the wiser
[16:48] Marvin: to me its not smart to keep someone who says "we are coming after you"
[16:48] willwiklebb5: Marvin
[16:48] willwiklebb5: we're all coming after you
[16:49] willwiklebb5: your whole room is in danger
[16:49] willwiklebb5: You already said yourself that you're a target
[16:49] Marvin: ok so be it then
[16:49] willwiklebb5: if you clean sweep Jase then you don't outcast yourself AND your alliance
[16:49] Marvin: u guys wil come after me
[16:49] willwiklebb5: duh
[16:49] Marvin: will be weird if adria, lori, natalie win hoh though
[16:49] willwiklebb5: I'm SURE that anyone who wins HOH next week
[16:50] willwiklebb5: Will it? I don't think so
[16:50] Marvin: guess we'll see
[16:50] willwiklebb5: but there's your alliance isn't it
[16:50] Marvin: these are ppl in my room
[16:50] Marvin: ppl outside of my room are coming after u, thats what YOU said
[16:50] willwiklebb5: then how will it be weird if they're not in your alliance
[16:50] willwiklebb5: and what YOU said is that they're not voting the way you want
[16:50] willwiklebb5: at least three
[16:51] willwiklebb5: so how can it be both ways?
[16:51] willwiklebb5: Why would it be weird if they're not voting the way you want?
[16:51] Marvin: there not voting how i want doesnt mean they'll put me up
[16:51] willwiklebb5: mmk
[16:51] willwiklebb5: Anyways I respect your decision to put me and Jase up
[16:51] willwiklebb5: it only makes sense
[16:51] Marvin: thanks, and youve given me alotto think about
[16:20] willwiklebb5: hey who's this
[16:20] gtpimpsta328: Marvin
[16:20] willwiklebb5: Hi
[16:20] gtpimpsta328: hows it going
[16:20] willwiklebb5: Eh.....not great lol
[16:20] gtpimpsta328: sorry man
[16:20] gtpimpsta328: im sure you are campaigning hard
[16:20] willwiklebb5: Of course
[16:20] gtpimpsta328: plus u got a few ppl aligned with you...u might be ok
[16:21] willwiklebb5: I don't have anyone aligned with me but it's clear that your bedroom is in power
[16:21] willwiklebb5: so they definitely don't want to break the power up
[16:21] willwiklebb5: scratch that
[16:21] willwiklebb5: they def DO want to break that power up
[16:21] gtpimpsta328: well i mean we are actually trying to win competitions
[16:21] gtpimpsta328: its easy when ppl are just throwing it
[16:21] willwiklebb5: I am too
[16:21] willwiklebb5: almost won that veto myself
[16:21] willwiklebb5: and I wasn't trying to throw the HOH
[16:22] gtpimpsta328: not saying u, just ppl in general
[16:22] willwiklebb5: I just think that you should have been honest
[16:22] willwiklebb5: you needed to put up two people in our room
[16:22] willwiklebb5: I get that
[16:22] gtpimpsta328: not really
[16:22] gtpimpsta328: i put up you..and then the only other person who ive never spoken to was jase
[16:22] gtpimpsta328: ive spoken to everyone else in the game at least once
[16:23] willwiklebb5: Ok. But it's completely strategically advantageous to you and your alliance to put up someone from the other room
[16:23] gtpimpsta328: again there is no alliance in our room
[16:23] gtpimpsta328: there are ppl in our room who is voting to keep u
[16:23] willwiklebb5: Marvin if you think I believe that you're hoping a lot
[16:24] gtpimpsta328: u dont have to believe me
[16:24] gtpimpsta328: its fact
[16:24] willwiklebb5: Well I'm going to continue to think that you're in an alliance. You and Adria BOTH put me up
[16:24] willwiklebb5: that's not a coincidence
[16:25] gtpimpsta328: so u scott drew arent together right
[16:25] willwiklebb5: right
[16:25] willwiklebb5: Scott won't even talk to me
[16:25] willwiklebb5: his only words to me so far have been "I don't want either you or jase to go home but I'm voting to keep you"
[16:26] willwiklebb5: and drew says that you're in power in your room
[16:26] willwiklebb5: he's told everyone that
[16:26] willwiklebb5: So how do I trust someone who betrays his own room?
[16:26] gtpimpsta328: yeah this week..becaus i won hoh
[16:26] willwiklebb5: I don't.
[16:26] gtpimpsta328: i asked ppl if they'd be willing to vote with me
[16:26] gtpimpsta328: since i was hoh
[16:27] gtpimpsta328: drew came out right and said he is voting to keep u
[16:27] willwiklebb5: so you wanted me out
[16:27] gtpimpsta328: it was either u or jse
[16:27] willwiklebb5: but you wanted ME out
[16:27] gtpimpsta328: jase actually came and talked to me in a full converstaion
[16:27] gtpimpsta328: so after pov i knew u were the one i wanted out to be honest
[16:27] willwiklebb5: I have you on my buddy list but you're never online
[16:27] gtpimpsta328: even after i won hoh, nom'd u and everythin u never contacted me
[16:27] gtpimpsta328: im always on
[16:27] gtpimpsta328: i spoke to everyone on aim
[16:28] willwiklebb5: I don't see you man you're not showing up
[16:28] gtpimpsta328: so i figured u werent contacting me cuz u dont like me, and of couse that worries me
[16:28] gtpimpsta328: im online right now do u see me
[16:28] willwiklebb5: now I do
[16:28] willwiklebb5: Well it's not a matter of dislike
[16:28] willwiklebb5: I don't know you so I can't dislike you
[16:30] willwiklebb5: It's a matter of the game. Your room runs things because you've got 5 people in it
[16:30] willwiklebb5: Adria and you have both won HOH
[16:30] willwiklebb5: you've won Veto
[16:30] gtpimpsta328: how many ppl did u start out with in ur room
[16:30] willwiklebb5: 4
[16:30] willwiklebb5: or 5
[16:30] willwiklebb5: hm was karen in our room?
[16:30] willwiklebb5: no one in our room talks
[16:30] gtpimpsta328: yeah
[16:31] gtpimpsta328: no one in ur room talks...u guys have 35 posts in there
[16:31] gtpimpsta328: we have 30
[16:31] willwiklebb5: that's not a lot
[16:31] gtpimpsta328: but its more then us
[16:31] willwiklebb5: I was expecting a lot more communication
[16:31] willwiklebb5: the difference is negligible
[16:31] gtpimpsta328: so if we are aligned what does that make u guys, super aligned lol
[16:31] willwiklebb5: no
[16:31] willwiklebb5: clearly you've talked to everyone on aim
[16:31] willwiklebb5: I can't get anyone on aim
[16:31] willwiklebb5: scott never talks to me and nakomis
[16:32] willwiklebb5: jase
[16:32] gtpimpsta328: ppl PMed me too
[16:32] willwiklebb5: all I've ever seen online is holly natalie and michael
[16:32] willwiklebb5: and people don't respond to my pms
[16:32] willwiklebb5: so it's like I'm invisible in this house and it's frustrating
[16:32] willwiklebb5: So I started a game
[16:32] gtpimpsta328: so let me ask u something
[16:32] gtpimpsta328: and be honest
[16:32] willwiklebb5: sure
[16:32] gtpimpsta328: ur not with scott/jase etc
[16:33] gtpimpsta328: ppl in ur room
[16:33] willwiklebb5: not until you put me and jase up had we even discussed it
[16:33] gtpimpsta328: even tho before Karen left she said she had a big alliance
[16:33] gtpimpsta328: she PMed me and said watch out ofr htat room u guys have a big alliance but she never named any1
[16:33] willwiklebb5: yeah that's why she left :/ because she felt so safe in a huge alliance
[16:33] gtpimpsta328: so i put 2 and 2 together
[16:33] willwiklebb5: yeah well she was lying
[16:34] gtpimpsta328: why would she lie i dont get it
[16:34] gtpimpsta328: im so confused
[16:34] gtpimpsta328: if she left the game no reason to lie
[16:34] willwiklebb5: To create confusion
[16:34] willwiklebb5: I don't know?
[16:34] willwiklebb5: She never said a word to me
[16:35] willwiklebb5: Until you won HOH our room barely said anything to each other
[16:35] willwiklebb5: then you guys won and we were like whoa another win for the biggest bedroom
[16:35] willwiklebb5: we're in trouble if we don't break up that power
[16:35] gtpimpsta328: ok i get it u are all coming after me, thats fine
[16:35] willwiklebb5: no
[16:35] willwiklebb5: your entire room
[16:35] willwiklebb5: the power needs to be broken up because the bedrooms are completely uneven
[16:36] gtpimpsta328: there are ppl in our room who is voting agains tme
[16:36] gtpimpsta328: 2 ppl
[16:36] gtpimpsta328: 1 person i have NO clue what shes doing
[16:36] gtpimpsta328: thats 3 ppl
[16:36] gtpimpsta328: out of 5
[16:36] gtpimpsta328: some alliance
[16:36] willwiklebb5: sorry
[16:36] gtpimpsta328: u guys have nakomis in ur room
[16:36] gtpimpsta328: shes a great competito
[16:37] willwiklebb5: Yeah we've got Nakomis in our room.
[16:37] willwiklebb5: And since we don't talk?
[16:37] willwiklebb5: what good does it do me?
[16:37] gtpimpsta328: she hasnt said ONE word to u guys
[16:37] gtpimpsta328: so whose done all that talking for 35 posts?
[16:37] willwiklebb5: ME
[16:37] willwiklebb5: As you can see I'm the most talkative person in the entire game as far as board posts go
[16:38] willwiklebb5: and I try to talk to people on AIM as often as possible
[16:38] willwiklebb5: but honestly I've never seen you online
[16:38] willwiklebb5: let's say I stay in the house
[16:38] willwiklebb5: what do you think will happen next week?
[16:39] Marvin: ur going to nom me and someone from my room
[16:39] Marvin: if jase stays what do u think will happen next week?
[16:39] willwiklebb5: you and adria will go up
[16:39] Marvin: bingo
[16:39] Marvin: butt one thing....jase doesnt have the backing u do
[16:39] Marvin: but*
[16:40] willwiklebb5: It's true
[16:40] willwiklebb5: I don't think he's talked to even as many people as I have
[16:40] willwiklebb5: which is crazy
[16:40] willwiklebb5: I figured he'd be talking to everyone already
[16:41] Marvin: the thing is i cant vote for u to stay because u will come at me and u have the following to do so
[16:41] Marvin: jase has no following
[16:41] Marvin: u said so urself
[16:42] willwiklebb5: You're not thinking clearly then
[16:42] Marvin: so you'd agree in what im doing, getting u out over jase
[16:42] willwiklebb5: no
[16:42] willwiklebb5: see here's the problem
[16:42] Marvin: u just said urself jase has talked to no one
[16:42] willwiklebb5: you're a target next week no matter what
[16:42] willwiklebb5: just listen
[16:42] Marvin: both of u are coming after me
[16:42] Marvin: i know im a target
[16:42] willwiklebb5: just listen
[16:42] willwiklebb5: stop for a second
[16:42] Marvin: but what happens if adria wins, or natalie or holly
[16:42] Marvin: ok listening
[16:43] willwiklebb5: Ok so if you send me home this week you have all of the people that voted to keep me going against you
[16:43] Marvin: right
[16:43] willwiklebb5: if you send home jase you don't ruffle as many feathers
[16:43] Marvin: against the ppv who voting u out
[16:43] Marvin: ppl
[16:43] willwiklebb5: but the people who would vote me out are listening to YOU
[16:43] willwiklebb5: which means if you find a way to change your mind
[16:43] willwiklebb5: then they'll listen and vote out jase and you'll have less people angry at you
[16:43] willwiklebb5: right?
[16:44] willwiklebb5: make up something, back pedal
[16:44] willwiklebb5: vote out Jase make it a clean sweep that the whole house can agree on
[16:44] willwiklebb5: you'll still have a target on your back but it'll be a LOT smaller than if I go home
[16:44] willwiklebb5: or if there's a clear division of votes
[16:44] willwiklebb5: then people will know where they stand
[16:44] willwiklebb5: if you vote out Jase and get your alliance to as well
[16:44] willwiklebb5: ...
[16:45] Marvin: uve already told me u are putting me up, and u have scott and drew to help u
[16:45] Marvin: jase will put me up but have 0 with him
[16:45] willwiklebb5: I don't have scott and drew to help me
[16:45] willwiklebb5: you keep saying that
[16:45] willwiklebb5: just because you say it doesn't make it true
[16:45] willwiklebb5: What I'm telling you is that I'm not going home.
[16:45] Meebo Message: Could not IM buddy
[16:46] Marvin: ok so if ur not going home well then i dont need to tell anyone to change there minds right?
[16:46] willwiklebb5: Your choice is do I not go home with a clean sweep against jase
[16:46] willwiklebb5: making it everyone voting with what the house wnats
[16:46] willwiklebb5: wants
[16:46] willwiklebb5: OR do you vote me out anyway
[16:46] willwiklebb5: and lose
[16:46] willwiklebb5: and see some landslide against your alliance
[16:46] willwiklebb5: the only way your alliance saves face this week is by voting to keep me
[16:46] Marvin: well it doesnt matter what i want....u said ur not going home
[16:47] willwiklebb5: right
[16:47] willwiklebb5: so vote to keep me
[16:47] Marvin: ok so thats that
[16:47] willwiklebb5: the vote will be X - 0
[16:47] Marvin: no im not going to vote to keep u
[16:47] willwiklebb5: and your alliance won't be exposed
[16:47] Marvin: my vote means0
[16:47] Marvin: my alliance is already exposed according to you
[16:47] Marvin: u asid ur whole room is targetting us
[16:47] willwiklebb5: here's what we have
[16:47] Marvin: that leaves holly and cowboy
[16:47] willwiklebb5: drew says you're in an alliance
[16:47] Marvin: everyone else is in ur room
[16:47] willwiklebb5: I can't trust him
[16:48] willwiklebb5: You and adria both targeted me
[16:48] willwiklebb5: and your room is in control
[16:48] willwiklebb5: We have no confirmation that you're in an alliance
[16:48] willwiklebb5: If you voted to make it a clean sweep then you can say Jase was always your target and no one's the wiser
[16:48] Marvin: to me its not smart to keep someone who says "we are coming after you"
[16:48] willwiklebb5: Marvin
[16:48] willwiklebb5: we're all coming after you
[16:49] willwiklebb5: your whole room is in danger
[16:49] willwiklebb5: You already said yourself that you're a target
[16:49] Marvin: ok so be it then
[16:49] willwiklebb5: if you clean sweep Jase then you don't outcast yourself AND your alliance
[16:49] Marvin: u guys wil come after me
[16:49] willwiklebb5: duh
[16:49] Marvin: will be weird if adria, lori, natalie win hoh though
[16:49] willwiklebb5: I'm SURE that anyone who wins HOH next week
[16:50] willwiklebb5: Will it? I don't think so
[16:50] Marvin: guess we'll see
[16:50] willwiklebb5: but there's your alliance isn't it
[16:50] Marvin: these are ppl in my room
[16:50] Marvin: ppl outside of my room are coming after u, thats what YOU said
[16:50] willwiklebb5: then how will it be weird if they're not in your alliance
[16:50] willwiklebb5: and what YOU said is that they're not voting the way you want
[16:50] willwiklebb5: at least three
[16:51] willwiklebb5: so how can it be both ways?
[16:51] willwiklebb5: Why would it be weird if they're not voting the way you want?
[16:51] Marvin: there not voting how i want doesnt mean they'll put me up
[16:51] willwiklebb5: mmk
[16:51] willwiklebb5: Anyways I respect your decision to put me and Jase up
[16:51] willwiklebb5: it only makes sense
[16:51] Marvin: thanks, and youve given me alotto think about